Comments on: Atheist sues military over "fundamentalist Christianity" http://www.alliancealert.org/2008/03/06/atheist-sues-military-over-fundamentalist-christianity/ news from the frontlines of the culture war Sat, 06 Sep 2008 00:27:07 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.5.2-alpha By: Cathy http://www.alliancealert.org/2008/03/06/atheist-sues-military-over-fundamentalist-christianity/#comment-744 Cathy Sat, 08 Mar 2008 00:06:33 +0000 http://www.alliancealert.org/2008/03/06/atheist-sues-military-over-fundamentalist-christianity/#comment-744 Christians -- followers of Jesus Christ -- have no business in anybody's military. National soldiering and Christianity are diametrically opposed. Anyone who actually paid attention to their Bible would realize that. All successful wars of ancient Israel were directly commanded by God to ancient Israel. Since the Diaspora, there has been no such country. We certainly aren't ancient Israel! God communicated directly with His chosen leaders in ancient Israel. Since Christ's appearance to St. Paul on the Damascan Road, and St. John's Patmos revelations, God hasn't chosen to communicate directly with anyone else, even modern Israel, and the Bible itself tells us it's closed and not to add to it or subtract from it. Any wars initiated on their own by ancient Israel were lost humiliatingly. Christians didn't participate as soldiers for the first three centuries after Christ's Ascension. They were closer to Him than we are. It's just possible they knew better than we're willing to what being a Christian means. It means to love -- not hate, certainly not kill in their own land! -- your enemies, pray for them, do good to them. Christians sin by joining the military of any nation. Christians should get out of the military by any means possible. We should obey God rather than men. Jesus said by their love we would know who His followers are, and by their obedience or disobedience to Him they reveal whether they belong to Him or not. God says "I would have mercy rather than sacrifice." James tells us that mercy triumphs over judgment. Jesus said that love for Him is demonstrated by obedience to His commands. We have a choice, and it should be obvious we cannot deny that choice and still claim Him. Christians in the military is anathema to Christ. Stop taking His name in vain and either come out of sin or cease to claim to be His follower. No, I don't owe my freedom to say these things to the U.S. military. I owe it to God, who has seen fit to use an unholy military to protect me and my God-given rights. My favorite chapter in the Old Testament is 2 Chronicles 20. I've never heard it preached on or taught from. From the New Testament it's Revelation 19. Only one person has any kind of a weapon, and it doesn't say "Semper Fi." Leave earthly battles to non-Christians. Our weapons are spiritual, not of this world, and our citizenship is heavenly, not of this world. "Come out of her, My people, and be clean." "Be holy, as God is holy." Christians — followers of Jesus Christ — have no business in anybody’s military. National soldiering and Christianity are diametrically opposed.

Anyone who actually paid attention to their Bible would realize that. All successful wars of ancient Israel were directly commanded by God to ancient Israel. Since the Diaspora, there has been no such country. We certainly aren’t ancient Israel!

God communicated directly with His chosen leaders in ancient Israel. Since Christ’s appearance to St. Paul on the Damascan Road, and St. John’s Patmos revelations, God hasn’t chosen to communicate directly with anyone else, even modern Israel, and the Bible itself tells us it’s closed and not to add to it or subtract from it.

Any wars initiated on their own by ancient Israel were lost humiliatingly.

Christians didn’t participate as soldiers for the first three centuries after Christ’s Ascension. They were closer to Him than we are. It’s just possible they knew better than we’re willing to what being a Christian means. It means to love — not hate, certainly not kill in their own land! — your enemies, pray for them, do good to them.

Christians sin by joining the military of any nation. Christians should get out of the military by any means possible. We should obey God rather than men.

Jesus said by their love we would know who His followers are, and by their obedience or disobedience to Him they reveal whether they belong to Him or not.

God says “I would have mercy rather than sacrifice.” James tells us that mercy triumphs over judgment.

Jesus said that love for Him is demonstrated by obedience to His commands. We have a choice, and it should be obvious we cannot deny that choice and still claim Him.

Christians in the military is anathema to Christ. Stop taking His name in vain and either come out of sin or cease to claim to be His follower.

No, I don’t owe my freedom to say these things to the U.S. military. I owe it to God, who has seen fit to use an unholy military to protect me and my God-given rights.

My favorite chapter in the Old Testament is 2 Chronicles 20. I’ve never heard it preached on or taught from. From the New Testament it’s Revelation 19. Only one person has any kind of a weapon, and it doesn’t say “Semper Fi.”

Leave earthly battles to non-Christians. Our weapons are spiritual, not of this world, and our citizenship is heavenly, not of this world.
“Come out of her, My people, and be clean.” “Be holy, as God is holy.”

]]> By: Patricia Bryant http://www.alliancealert.org/2008/03/06/atheist-sues-military-over-fundamentalist-christianity/#comment-727 Patricia Bryant Fri, 07 Mar 2008 13:50:40 +0000 http://www.alliancealert.org/2008/03/06/atheist-sues-military-over-fundamentalist-christianity/#comment-727 My son, who is in the military, has had the opposite experience. He was told that if he wished to be promoted that he would spend time with his fellow crew members "socializing" i.e. drinking and having a good time instead of spending time with his family and counseling young sailors with family and financial problems. He ignored this advice and did receive the promotion. My son, who is in the military, has had the opposite experience. He was told that if he wished to be promoted that he would spend time with his fellow crew members “socializing” i.e. drinking and having a good time instead of spending time with his family and counseling young sailors with family and financial problems. He ignored this advice and did receive the promotion.

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